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What leadership skills are needed in Tech - with Vince Gratrick and Eleri Morgan
In today's episode, Stuart talks with a respected recruiter in the NFP Tech space - Eleri Morgan from Global Resourcing, and with Vince Gratrick who led Technology in Mencap, Age UK and United Response.
They discuss trends in Tech recruitment over the past 15 years, and identify the skills most in demand for Tech leaders in 2025.
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Stuart McSkimming
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What Leadership Skills are needed in Tech?
For some of you, you might be listening to this podcast or reading this newsletter whilst on the beach. You might even be taking that step back and thinking about what the next few months mean in your career. In today’s episode , we have a three-way discussion between Stuart McSkimming , Vincent Gratrick and Eleri Morgan. We talk a little bit about how roles and skillsets have changed over the years - and look to the future to understand what we might need in organisations.
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Season 3 Episode 3:
How have IT and Digital skills evolved over time? And how have teams and organisations reacted to ensure they keep their people match-fit for the challenges that exist in the world of data, digital, technology and transformation.
Stuart and Vince discuss this from their perspectives within organisations - and Eleri shares her knowledge from a recruitment point-of-view. We talk about the skills that are needed for leaders to succeed - both in the past, currently, and in the future. What’s changed, why has it changed, and what this can tell us about what we need in a future organisation where AI plays a role alongside the traditional functions.
Stay Tuned for more insights in future episodes
If you’re new to the podcast - then definitely take a look back at some cracking episodes in the previous two seasons. Whilst there is a storyline flowing through the episodes, they work in any order, so don’t feel obliged to listen to them chronologically.
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About our host and guests
Vincent Gratrick is a veteran digital and technology leader with over 25 years’ experience delivering transformation in both permanent leadership roles and through working with consultants and suppliers on fixed statements of work. From leading major programmes at Age UK and Mencap to navigating the tricky balance between in-house expertise and external support, Vince brings a wealth of insight into what really works - and what doesn’t - when it comes to making that mix successful.
Eleri Morgan is a people focused, and experienced Executive Search Professional with a strong track record across Digital Data and Technology. With a background spanning talent partnership and executive search within Charity, Non-Profit, Life Sciences, Start-ups and Prop Tech industries, Eleri brings a wealth of expertise in strategic hiring, market mapping, and talent consultancy. Her consultative approach, combined with an extensive network and deep sector knowledge, enables her to support organisations strategically and in securing the right leadership to deliver meaningful change. Passionate about fostering diversity, equity, and inclusion, Eleri actively champions diverse talent pipelines, ensuring that organisations benefit from a broad range of perspectives and experiences.
Stuart McSkimming, Podcast Host
Stuart is an independent consultant and founder of the sector-specific Technology consultancy, Virtue Chain . He is an award-winning leader with over twenty years’ experience in NFP/Charity leadership roles, predominantly in the technology/digital and transformation space. He is an expert in getting the most from teams and focusing organisations on strategic goals to get the most from Technology & Digital. He is passionate about organisations focusing on inclusion and finding ways to attract a diverse mix of top talent into their teams. He has worked as a CIO for two organisations – Shelter and Royal British Legion, and also a variety of roles elsewhere. Stuart is extensively networked in the not-for-profit sector both in the UK, and internationally, and is the Vice Chair of top membership organisation, Charity IT Leaders. Stuart enjoys regular public speaking, and also has been known to do stand-up comedy gigs occasionally.
Virtue Chain builds the link between enthusiastic and talented technology teams, and organisation strategic goals. By focusing on people, strategy, governance and decision-making structures, Virtue Chain can help your charity get the right leadership approach across Technology, Digital, Data, AI, and transformation. We use maturity models, and partnering approaches to help trustees, CEO’s and exec leaders see the potential for technology in their organisation, and understand where to start in turning ideas into action.
Get in contact with [email protected] if you’d like to chat. Typically the conversation starts from either a trustee, CEO or CTO level.
In case its not obvious, views expressed are Stuart’s own view, and don’t represent those of any organisations he is working with or mentions.
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